"'What's the point?' they say. They can't go into the back country.

"People say, 'I've got a kid, so can I stop on shore so they can go to the washroom?' And I say, 'No, I guess you'll have to come all the way back.'"

"It affects my business short-term, but you don't want to lose all of the forest and not have people come out here. We're hoping for rain, but one day of rain won't get rid of this threat. We need three or four days."